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Friday, March 31, 2017

Hawaii Nudism: places to get naked and to hook up


Is it possible to really have 'sex-on-the-beach' that's more than just a cocktail drink?

Originally written in 2005, Revised May 28, 2008, republished April 2017

(Note: Some info included here may no longer be accurate since condition can and do change - such is the nature of nudism across the world.  The weather and erosion, changes in attitudes of the local community and prohibition or surveillance by law enforcement or public park authorities may cause significant changes to the 'facts' listed in the article below).
I frequently get requests about his topic so I have a standard blog entry and just keep adding more to it.

If you have more specific questions later, I'll try to answer them. But for now, I hope this general introduction to Hawaii nude beaches and gay spots will help.

The first part is mainly about Oahu. There is also specific information about The Big Island, Hawaii, at the end of this article.

Nude beaches, heh? Do they exist in the Hawaii islands?


WarningNudity on public beaches is illegal. Do not do so without taking adequate precautions to be discreet. However, there are a few places where it is tolerated (or at least overlooked) by the authorities. However, most of these are NOT located on Oahu. Nevertheless, nude sunbathing does happen on Oahu (the main island, where Honolulu and its famous, Waikiki Beach, are located).

Queen's Surf
There is a section of Waikiki Beach called Queen's Surf -- where you guessed it - the queens gathers. It is not a nude beach. No, not drag queens (LOL), but gay men tend to gather there.
It gets its name from Queen Kapio'lani, an important member of the formerly rich and powerful royal Hawaii family - there's huge park just adjacent to this whole area of Waikiki that is named after the 'real' Queen. To reach it go east on Kalakaua (the main avenue running east-west in Waikiki, go passed the Honolulo Zoo (on your left at the corner of Kapahulu and Kalakaua), which sits at the corner marking the edge of the Kapio'lani Park, and continue walking along the edge of the beach. Queen's Surf located just two hundred yards before the Waikiki Aquarium. You find it just passed the snack shop/restroom. However, there is absolutely no nudity on this very public part of the beach. Many people don't even notice that it's chocked full of mainly only guys in skimpy bikinis - (unless the knee-length boardshorts that most of the tourists wear), and you're likely to have families or tourist/visitors sitting near or even among the 'guys' on the grass lawn just across the beach side sidewalk.

I really doubt anything goes like actual cruising on in the public restroom that's immediately adjacent - but you'd not have to be too indiscreet to quickly make eye contact with some interested guy while lounging on your towel or grass beach mat. It's just too busy a place and heavily trafficked by the beach-goers for any hanky-panky to occur. However, I suspect that it not the case for the now - almost unused and slowly deteriorating 'Natatorium' just a 300 yards further east along the beach.

In times past, it was used for outdoor swimming competitions and probably for swimming lessons or training. It's a large outdoor pool with stadium-like bleacher seats on the mauka (shoreline) side.
The structure is closed and falling into disarray, except for the restrooms and lifeguards/beach patrol offices housed under the stadium bleachers. It's open only during daylight hours -- but it seems to be a frequented by some local and a few tourists who are looking for more than a cold shower in the nude or a foot massage. Once I was showering -naked - when a young local guy came in - alone and seemingly enthralled by my lack of embarrassment at being bare assed. He proceeded to tease the hell out of me mercilessly (and unknowingly so) by his pretending to take so long to get the sand washed out of his swimsuit. It is a public facility - so buyer beware and cruisers should be very caution - since the beach patrol staff have their office and park their vehicles nearby.

Diamond Head Beach (Lighthouse Beach)
For nudism, the closest place to Waikiki where you can go to a gay and sometimes discreetly nude beach on Oahu is at Diamond Head Beach (below the Light House). It can be cruisy but you need to be aware that it is part of a public beach and not everybody walking down along the shore is a guy looking for sex. Tourists, people walking their pets, and families sometimes walk through and even stop to enjoy the beach too. It's a popular place for viewing sunsets; however, most sungazing tourists, bent on photographing their one-in-a-life-time of the sun going down, congregate on the lookout points far above - on Diamond Head Road. Still, you need vigilance since some of the more assertive ones, think they need to get as close to the sun as possible to get a good shot.


 So you sometimes have Fredia from Columbus taking photos along the beach -- a slight problem if you're sitting there in the all-together or somehow have a guy's cock down your throat (LOL) while cavorting behind a rock.

However, it does get cruisy at times. Oddly, it is sometimes best when the sun has started to set or after sunset. Just be discreet and cover up if somebody who looks like a cop comes through. I have never seen a police office or been stopped myself but I've "heard" that arrests have been made for public indecency. I have received a parking ticket - so don't park where it is prohibited or after the posted hours (10pm ?). There are places to "hide", ledges to sun nude without being seen from below and I've had some wild times there both in broad daylight and after dusk.

To get there..
From the east end of Waikiki, you can drive there or it is even possible to walk (20-30 minute walk across and down along Kapiolani Park) to its eastern end and then walk up about 700 yards to the drive way that goes down to Light House Beach. You can't miss Diamond Head crater's peak looming overhead -- which can be seen from anywhere in Honolulu. If you drive, then you can follow Kalakaua east to the Zoo and then continue due east along Kapiolani Park to its end and then turn right on Diamond Head road. There is a small road down the beach -- but there is limited parking there (don't leave a car at most Diamond Head Road street parking after 10pm or as posted!!)

If driving, it is easier sometimes to go on passed the light house and look for parking up at the look-out point(s) along Diamond Head Road. As any place in Honolulu - don't leave valuables in your car and don't park where people can easily sneak up and open your car -- car break-in are the highest in the country in Honolulu -- more than NYC by far.
zIf you're really worried then drive (or take bus (#14) or a taxi and then walk back to the nearest bus stop or all the way back to Waikiki) -- good exercise too. The walk through Kapiolani Park either way is beautiful. On the beach side parallel with the Park and eventually leading to Waikiki proper just across from the Zoo (at the interection of Kalakaua and Kapahulu) is the extension of Waikiki Beach. There you'll find Queen's Surf Beach between the Honolulu Zoo and the Waikiki Aquarium, where a lot of gays hang out - but there in NO NUDITY absolutely at such a public place.


Being Discreet and Avoiding Trouble
You should know that public (beach) nudity is illegal in Hawaii (as in most US States) -- this is posted at most beaches -- and there has evidently been more police patrolling of Light House beach. But I myself have never seen a police officer on the beach -- although the stories / rumors keep going around. My advice is don't be blatant -- it is a public beach with families and tourists -- who don't expect to see a nude guy especially one with a hard-on or engaged in sexual activity. They are probably the ones who call the police (if they ever do come down to look for "sex perverts".) I prefer to stay up above the beach -- (but not TOO high) or the tourist at the look-out point above can see you -- and have towel/swimsuit to cover up if somebody obviously NOT gay comes snooping around.


Nonetheless, I've had some good "looks" and quite a lot of sex in the bushes and in the coves/nooks, especially around dusk. If you aren't interested in the cruising part, then you can just enjoy the sun and see what other guys do. They can't arrest you for thongs or skimpy bikinis in any case.

Mokuleia (near Polo Field) on the North Shore (Oahu)
(part of a discussion Yahoo! Group Hawaii Nudist -- it is not very active, but there was information about a North Shore 'nudist' beach - Mokuleia.)

Since there are no legal nude beaches on Oahu or its too far to go there, some guys do lie out on the north shore near the Polo Fields at Mokuleia. Others lie out at Diamond head below the lighthouse right outside Waikiki. (by Honolulust)

The beach on the North Shore (Polo Fields) is much nicer than the Diamond Head lighthouse beach. The water is clearer, cleaner and much more secluded. At the end of the public access trail, go to the right for the gay nude area. As you walk you will see a bushy wooded area.
That's the gay area. You can situate yourself on the beach or in the little areas in the bushes. I 've had some very hot sessions on that beach!
(by Musl2Pound)

I'm still not sure where that beach is - Polo Fields at Mokuleia. Is in off of Crozier Dr. (the street closest to the shore) or is it further west out Farrington Hwy? If you don't have a car (a tourist
or visitor) would you be out of luck? I mean is it worth take a bus to Waialua and then walking?
(These question are from sunbuns99 - p.s. Nobody ever answered my questions so I still don't know much about Mokuleia (May 2008). You can find the place and the polo fields on Google maps.)

Further out from Honolulu toward East Oahu

If you want a lot of privacy and have much more free time, then you could take a drive out H1 East -- passed Hawaii Kai area and passed Hanauma Bay (which is not cruisy at all - but a wonderful short trip -- you can rent snorkeling gear (closes at 4:30pm). After Hanauma Bay -- there is the blow-hole and look-out points where you can sometimes catch glimpses of humpback whales (from the shore). Continuing on passed Sandy Beach,(smooth and with big green fields) you'll come to a rather deserted rough beach -- at the far eastern end -- guys sometimes go nude because there are lots of bushes, low rises and make-shift rock shelters to hide your butt and balls --except from those who are eager to find. Still, it can be very hot -- no water and rather isolated -- so don't stay there after dark -- sometimes car doors are pried open while guys are out "sunning" themselves.

WARNING: Nowadays, the thieves don't both to pry open the locks, they just take a big rock and smash the driver's side window in order to get in. DO NOT LEAVE anything --- visible or not, the risk of vandalism remains high.

I hate to sound so CAUTIOUS but people who live locally can read the signs and know what to expect, but I don't want to give you (perhaps a tourist for the first time) a lot of over-confidence. If you live in NYC, you should already have street smarts -- but they are different in every place -- and Oahu has its own street culture -- that's for sure. Fortunately, it's pretty laid back and relaxed. Hawaii has one of the lowest rates of violent crime in the US -- although the property crime ranks at one of the highest -- especially automobile theft and (break-in) robbery.

Further out from Honolulu toward West Oahu (toward Makaha)

Most tourists don't even bother to drive out to this part of the island because the road (Farrington Hwy eventually stop out by Makua Valley a few miles passed Makaha) Civilizations stop too - it's pretty wild country. There are some great views along the way and also some totally deserted expanses of sandy beaches bordered by rocky coast line -- but no cliffs, so it's easy to get down to the water. I've bicycled out there (I used to stay in a vacation condo in Makaha a lot) along the highway and found many spots to sunbathe in the nude privately.
Local fisherman and some a few tourists might come up on you - but if you have a towel handy to cover up it's no problem.


NOTE* BIG PROBLEM TO AVOID (automobile robbery - breaking/entering thefts)-- Robbery of vehicles is a BIG problem here. So.. take everything out of the car and open the windows. If the would-be robbers (who usually drive up in a car with darkly tinted windows, see that you have nothing worth taking and you don't even lock the car, then they figure there is nothing worth smashing the windows to try to get.
( Keep you bicycle/motorcycle in plain sight, too)

Yes, it's kind of scary - but it is STILL worth going out there by all means - if you take simple precautions.

If you go to Yokohama Beach -- just a bit after Makua Valley Military Practice Firing Range, you see a public parking lot and because there are military guards on duty (sometimes), there is less possibililty of a car robbery if you park there. From that point, you can walk / hike further north out to Kaena Point (described below).

Kaena Point: In fact, at the far northwestern tip of Oahu is an amazing natural park. Kaena Point is a federal (or state?) nature preserve on the tip of the islands perhaps thousand of acres in size. It's amazing because here you can co-mingle with nesting albatross, a species native to Hawaii, or watch them flying over head, there are sea turtles cavorting in the rough waves, and sometimes you can get close to Hawaiian monk seals sunbathing on the long sandy beaches.
Be sure to take plenty of drinking water and sunscreen -- there are hardly any places to find shade and it takes about 30 minutes to reach the park and another 30-60 to walk around (or reach the North Shore exit on the far side).

I've gone nude hiking there myself because it is pretty deserted (however, not completely - because you'll encounter one or two other people with 'nature on their minds'. There are even some old bunkers


(probably left over from WWII days or prior to that) for 'shelter' from wind (not from the sun bearing down). The Waianae Mountain Range which you followed all along the western (leeward) coast of Oahu slopes down to a small hillside by the time it reaches this western-most point of the island.
No cars can get through to Kaena Point - but it's possible to take a bicycle through it and then head back east and reach the North Shore (on foot)-- the sand / terrain makes riding any thing but a mountain bike difficult until you reach pavement. I have been there in a few years so I can say what the conditions are on the trails coming from the Makua Valley side. You should check or ask local or local Internet sites before you go. Likehike is a gay-friendly hiking club that meets regularly for hiking excursions to many places on the island - they should be able to provide you with up-to-date information on trails to and from Kaena Point. Of course, this mainly gay outdoor recreation group are a bunch of nature enthusiasts so they aren't particularly intersted in nudism or nude hiking (but I'm sure there are individuals members who can give good advice and information about that once you join one of their outings/hiking - mainly scheduled on the Saturdays.

P.S. I believe it is possible to follow the Waianae Mountains ridges to reach Kaena Point - but I have never done so myself.

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Cruising Spots

See the local gay magazines for other "ideas" if you're trying to cruise... (links below)

Here is a link to the latest issues of the local gay guides magazines, Odyssey and DaKine.
http://www.hawaiiscene.com/odyssey/
Odyssey can be viewed online or you can also download the pages or entire issue.
http://www.dakinemagazine.com/
(NOTE: DaKine is a download-only PDF of the entire magazine)... so if you want to download this large file, click here to go to its home page: DaKine

Max's Gym - located on the 4F of 444 Hobron Lane, approximately two blocks off of Ala Moana Blvd. Turn left (heading into Waikiki) onto Hobron Street (McD's and ABC Store are on the corner). This is the first left after you cross the Ala Wai Canal bridge (marina is on the right side of this bridge) - just one block for the Waikiki end of Ala Moana Center. Go down Hobron Street two short blocks, and the building with Max's is just to your left as your turn right. NOTE* The gym has two sections (not connected) - one is the gym and the other is the sauna/private rooms part. That's where guys got to cruise. WARNING: They are very strict about bringing in alcohol, etc, therefore, NO BAGS of any kind are allowed. You should leave anything that does not fit in your pockets back at the hotel or at home. They refuse entry to backpacks, shoulder bags, and hip pouches. (August 2007)


I love the west side of Oahu - the leeward coast -- I get nude there -- although I am not flashing or exposing myself (normally). There is a place(s) on the North Shore of Oahu too, but I've never been there to those so-called 'nude' beaches.


I can also recommend the Big Island, Maui, and Kauai, which do have some great gay beaches -- but you can find more at the site below or check out names such a Donkey Beach (Maui), Honokohau Beach, and Kehena Black Sands beach (both on Hawaii) just by googling them along with nude or gay as keywords.


Here is a link to the latest issues of the local gay guides magazines, Odyssey and DaKine.
http://www.hawaiiscene.com/odyssey/
Odyssey can be viewed online or you can also download the pages or entire issue.
http://www.dakinemagazine.com/
(NOTE: DaKine is a download-only PDF of the entire magazine)... so if you want to download this large file, click here to go to its home page: DaKine


In Odyssey, look at the ON OAHU section or the BEYOND OAHU section to see what to do and where to go -- not an extensive listing since this is paid for advertising but a start.

======= Big Island, Kauai and Maui


For some general info about nude beaches in Hawaii (or the lack of) see:

http://gohawaii.about.com/cs/beaches/a/nude_beaches.htm

Gay beaches in the Hawaii islands (brief version and longer versions) see both below


Hawaii - The Big Island

Honokohau-Kaloko National Park

see more information below in the longer description or elsewhere in this blog

Diving nude on the Big Island 
and other posts.
http://sunbuns.blogspot.com/2006/11/diving-nude-on-big-island.html

Kehena Beach

Fine black sand distinguishes this small secluded beach on the Puna coast. On Hwy. #137, one mile from Kalani Eco-Resort at the Mile Marker 19 phone booth. Wear sturdy sneakers for lava rock trail to beach. Nude sunbathing (unless authorities decide to enforce anti-nudity regulations). Caution: strong currents and undertow.



Waialea Bay “Beach 67”

Wailea has (actually Waialea Bay Marine Preserve's) two beaches which are nicknamed Beach 69 and 67. Beach 69 is the larger and is great for snorkeling and diving - but it's not clothing-optional. Beach 67, on the north side of the bay, is smaller and frequented by naturists, nudists, hippies, and gay men. On Hwy. #19 at Mile Marker 71, turn into Puako Village, then right onto old Puako Road. Access Beach 67 by taking the gravel road at telephone pole #67, onward to the bluff, then hiking down to the beach. Nude sunbathing (unless authorities decide to enforce anti-nudity regulations).

Maui 


“Little Beach” at Makena

About one mile south of the Maui Prince Hotel in Makena, turn right at the second paved road to the parking lot. Walk to the beach, turn right, and hike over the promontory at the end to "Little Beach." The far end is the gayest. Nude sunbathing is the custom (unless authorities decide to enforce anti-nudity regulations). View photos.



MORE complete description of these BELOW:

Kehena Black Sands Beach
There are several of 'nude' beaches around the Big Island - the largest and most 'official' (being that the nudity there is just accepted by the local authorities/police/community is the Kehena Black Sands Beach at milemarker 19 on Hwy 137 (Kalapana-Kapoho Road (Puna's coastal road).
It's crowded on Sundays - with all kinds of people -families, hippies, locals, gays, tourist, etc..- many engaged in 'trance dance' but a lot of people are picniking, partying, and just having fun. On quiet days and times, there is sometimes cruising in the far left area of the beach.

Kalani (see info at Kalani.com is a gay-friendly resort not far from Kehena - it has a clothing optional pool (after 4pm).

There are other places where people get naked / nude swimming/sunbathing:


Honokohau (on US National park property at Kaloko-Honokohau National Reserve:
DIRECTIONS to
Take Highway 19 north from Kailua-Kona. Turn left between (4-5 miles out of town) Mile Markers #97 and 98. Take the first right and then park in the north lot of Honokohau Harbor and Marina, and then walk on into the K-HNP (reserve) and take the trail to this beach, past Ai'opio Beach. Although nudity is prohibited - it's still pretty common for gay to men to discreetly disrobe (get naked and cruise) in the area to the far right. Park rangers do patrol - but not that frequently (or maybe I've just been lucky).

Beach 67 (sometimes mistakenly called Beach 69)
Another 'unofficial' nude beach can be found in South Kohala (past Waikoloa) about 30 miles north of Kona (often times one of the sunniest places on the Big Island) and between Puako and Hapuna State Beach Park and not too far from the junction on Hwy 19 that lead to Kawaiihae (left) and Waimea (right). It's called Beach 67 (although you'll probably here more about Beach 69 (also known as Wailea or Waialea Beach). Wailea is certainly a beautiful tree-lined stretch of beach(es) in and among a sheltered cove (partly bordered by private property). But Beach 67 (telephone pole number - NOT milemaker) is located further north and is a much small beach where clothing optional is enjoyed by all.

To reach it follow the sign to turn off of Hwy 19 toward Hapuna State Beach Park (A large parking lot with additional parking above - there are hundreds of cars)

Go passed the Hapuna entrance and continue along the rough road about 600 feet further, you see a dirt road leading up to a ridge that overlooks the north end of Wailea. Park where the other cars (there won't be too many) and head downhill, coming through the trees to the small beach where nudity is accepted (if not encouraged. BTW, Wailea Beach (Beach 69) is the about 300 ft further passed Beach 67 - there is a longer driveway up the the entrance - usually there are a lot of cars. Note: you can also come in from the Puako side, existing Hwy 19 at Puako, and then making a right on the beach access road (mostly unpaved). So you first reach Wailea Beach (Beach 69) and then come to telephone pole 67 next - in the middle of the next rise (the entrance looks more like a dirt bike track).

Hope you enjoy getting some 'sun' on your buns on your trip to Hawaii.
Aloha!





Sunday, March 19, 2017

Starting a local CMNM (Clothed Male Naked Male) Group



One reader to our Guys Into CMNM blog wrote  to ask recently:  (That's you, Allen. Thanks).

I thought there might be others here on Tribe who might also be interested starting or joining a local Clothed Male / Naked Male group in your local area.  See our blog at:
http://guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com


Question:  I wanted to see if you had a group of CMNM in northern Indiana for me to join? Any ideas and/or contacts I could make to join in the area? Thanks.








Answer:   So.. what do you do when you live in a rural area or far away from a metropolitan area?


Are there any local groups and if not, what you do to get one started?


(Answered by 'sunbuns', Kelly Lewis, editor and admin, Guys Into CMNM blog and social networks).


While they may be members of one of our several social networking (online) groups who live the your area, Northern Indiana (or southern Mich or northwestern Ohio),  I don't think there are any real (off-line) CMNM meetings or events -- at least not yet.


CMNM hasn't been recognized for very long and it's still not commonly understood - even by the very men (particularly gay men) who are so turned on by it.  There are elements of it in so many activities / situations that are NOT simply sexual by definition. For example, there may be a men's nudist group in your area or close by. While many don't advocate sexual behavior at their events, some don't prohibit certain types of opportunities where naked and clothed men can intermingle.

Another form of CMNM often occurs in certain male sports or fitness situations - joining a YMCA, or other type of fitness club, or amateur sports league often gives a guy (CM or NM) a chance to interact with other males in clothed or naked situations.  Obviously, there may not be any overt sexual behavior but it can nevertheless be highly stimulating.



  For overt sexual situations, you can try a gay baths/sauna. I think Toledo has at least one, and there are certainly some in a few of the major cities around you; likewise a few gay bars have events where nudity (or semi-nudity) is condoned, or even where it is encouraged in backrooms, or enclosed patios, etc.




Of course, you can try to start a group -- or at least - hold a CMNM event in your area.  I have lots of ideas and would do as much as possible to help promote in on our blogs, and social networks, etc.  Depending on when it's held, I might be able to attend or organize/host part of it (I'll be traveling in North America from August 1 - 30 -from Hawaii to New York, from San Franciso, California to Provincetown, MA).


One way to start is to make your interest known by joining one (or all) of our Guys Into CMNM social networks. You may want to use a separate email address (since your real identity may expose you to some unwanted noisiness or scrutiny). However, in today's world, it has become less of a problem publicly admitting that one is gay. However, homophobes and morally self-righteous extremists still exist (and may actually be thriving).



It's probably obvious but it will take some initiative and some effort on the part of at least one person to get such an event or group started. However, even one is not enough.  Therefore, you have to try to encourage or attract guys to actually participate FIRST as people  -- not as sexual objects.  If you try to 'round up' a bunch of hunks for your own private orgy, it's not going to work unless you look like a male fashion model and have the body of an Olympic athlete.   To be realistic, most guys into CMNM are just regular guys. The guy down the street or the one who works at the mall or in local office building. What's it going to take to get them to come up with the courage to attend a CMNM event. My advice for guys trying to get a group started is to first make it a fully clothed gathering to initially.


Then a part of the group's activity can be to do something that involves nudity for a fairly short and non-threatening, fun activity - such as ask (or hire) a nude model for some sketching of the naked
male form.
















Or watch a movie where male nudity is a recurring theme or important point in the plot. Hold a pool party  or barn dance,  play badminton or horseshoes, and allow some of the participants to disrobe.   Set up a fashion night or a costume party in which the 'models' strip for a certain 'runway' event or make it a fund-raiser for charity by letting the audience bid for removal of each piece of clothing for some 'lucky' or willing volunteer who, thereby, gets stripped.

   Sexual behavior (penetrative anal or oral) does not have to be involved - especially when the group's members are just meeting for the first time. If there are sparks, then it's better that things develop slowly so that everyone knows the boundaries and feels comfortable acting within them before starting any more 'aggressive' types of CMNM behaviors or situations, especially those involving domination or humiliation or mild bondage.



It's not easy but it can be done.  It's just not going to happen over night and the key to first find a couple of others who are interested and also willing to be patient with the slow development of the
group.  Most guys who are turned on my other men sexually just want to jump to the wild orgy -- and that's NOT going to happen in most cases.  If you want sex with strangers, then use Craig's List or go to a gay sex club, or travel to where there is one.

I know I've gone long to answer, but it was a good question, and one whose answer I can attempt to make an appropriate blog entry.   Good luck and let me know how I might be able to help out.

Greetings,

Kelly Lewis,   - editor and admin, Guys Into CMNM blog and social networks

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VISIT these sites below:

http://guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com

( Our blog which also links to CMNM groups)

http://www.pridesites.com/sunbuns/

     (This is a mishmash of different sites and tools that, in effect, works much the
       same way as a single integrated social network does).

https://www.facebook.com/guysn2cmnm
    (You need to be logged into Facebook before you can find this one.)

http://cmnm.groupsite.com/
       (A simple but still working Guys Into CMNM social network site)

http://cel.ly/c/guysn2cmnm


 
 (An experimental social networking site that works across multiple devices: PC, iPad, iPhone, etc).



Wednesday, March 15, 2017

Wrestling naked: Is it male bonding, homoeroticism (CMNM), or just guys being athletic?


Is wrestling - especially naked with your buddy or team mate a type of CMNM behavior that is for male bonding, homoeroticism, or just guys being athletic?

For me, thinking of nude wrestling brings back some powerful memories. It never started out as nude wrestling, but it often turned out to become that. A college buddy - who was supposedly str8t and I would always get into a wrestling match after every time we got drunk -- it might be after a Saturday night's college party (we tended to give one or go to one every weekend), or it might be on Sunday afternoon when he and his girlfriend, my dorm mate (we had tiny private rooms) and I played cards and drank wine throughout the afternoon.



Eventually, as we got sotted, he and I would challenge each other to a wrestling match that always started in our underwear (I didn't freeball then like I do now).

The object of the wrestling match often was to tear off the other guy's briefs. Our spectators just cheered us on and it is truly a wonder that I didn't get caught with my a big hardon because I really had a crush on him -- but it was more like I wanted to 'be' him than just be with him sexually. So that's what nude wrestling means to me .. it's kind of homoerotic, but it's about asserting your masculinity or manhood in a strange kind of way and bonding physically with another guy - -whether he's gay or str8t doesn't really matter.

Actually, I can't really say I've ever had the same feelings toward a gay man and haven't actually wrestled a gay man in the nude -- I mean --- sex comes into the picture long before we get around to wrestling. These events happened during my junior-year-abroad in France. Patrice was studying judo at the time so he would usually get the upperhand in our sweaty wrestling matches - so I didn't actually get to pull off his briefs or expose his cock very often -- maybe that's why I kept trying [grin.]When we had a party, I was typically the one who got the drunkest and acted rather strange (I came from a rather puritanical, family)- like taking off some or most of my clothes, or climbing trees and telephone poles. Patrice and his girlfriend were the ones who helped me get back home and I would find myself in my own bed without any clothes on later the night or the next morning.

I always really wondered which one of them enjoyed 'taking care' of Le Petit (as they used to call me).One of the hottest (and nostalgically regretful) memories for me about those wrestling days in university (in France) was the time after one of our more intense wrestling bouts that Patrice told me privately in the dorm kitchen (where his girlfriend and my roomie could not heard) that he wanted to fuck my ass: 'You know what? - I'd fuck you in the ass.' I just joked about it, and replied that there was no way he was going to get my ass, and then passed it off as if it were nothing but I dreamed for years about what would have happened if I had taken him more seriously.

 It scared me because I knew how strongly I was attached to him emotionally and how much physically attractive he was. I had just come out to myself (and to other guy - my dorm mate). Shortly after that incident, our wrestling matches ended - perhaps from our having reached some kind of irrevocable turning point, and also it was about time for me to return home. Another memory was the time that we all went out in early May to the beach (I was studying in Montpellier),














I ended up getting one of the worst sunbuns I've ever had despite it being a partly cloudy spring day -- Patrice and his girlfriend brought me home, took off all my clothes (I was conscious but in great
pain), and rubbed me with burn cream and kept me warm and with plenty of liquids -- if I had not been in so much pain I would have been excited beyond belief to have Patrice rubbing my body-- as it was I was scorched and grimacing in pain - nothing pleasurable about it. I visited him in France years later - he is married, has two children and teaches English in high school. At this point, we've sort of lost contact, but this posting brought back memories of those idyllic days. If you like nude wrestling, frottage, Spartan love and then take a look at the full site (where the pic above is hosted).

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