Places to get naked in Europe (gay nude travel) Part 3

Simple and slow to frenetic - all kinds of nude vacation experiencesThere is more than one way to enjoy being nude

There are many places all over Europe where gays can have a relaxing, healthy (play safely) and

also culturally enriching clothing optional - nude vacation. In Spain, Sitges (near Barcelona,the city itself well worth a visit) has a wonderful gay nude beach. For a sex holiday (sex on the nude). I prefer Playa del Igles / Maspalomas on Gran Canaria, (Spain's Canary Islands off the coast of Morocco). which I have just written a lot about in a recent post below. You can find nude beaches in Italy, Croatia, Czech Republic too.

I particularly like the Austrian 'baden' style public spas - soak in the hot tubs and saunas and then go up and sun on the roof tops - liked the one in Linz. Vienna also has a nudist (although I never found the 'gay' section) on Donau Island recreation area - easily reached by train.South of France - such as Cap d'Agde (nudist city) but I have not actually been there to recommend if it is 'gay' enough.The Netherlands and Belgium have nudist and gay beaches (short distance from major cities). Berlin and Munich (mentioned above) have nudist areas in the major city parks -which can be cruisy (and stimulating - particularly to a closet (or overt) exhibitionist - like me. (see pic at above right of Munich's Englischergarten. It is a mixed clothing optional park - right in the heart of the city. You can find clothed people in one section and the nude people stay on the other side of a central path - some areas are definitely more male-oriented. ).

Budapest,Hungary:

I want to visit Budapest again and go to the outdoor nudist pool, Palatinus, on Margaret Island (or Margit Island, MargitSziget). The island is also home to a great park and hosts many events such as those listed below.

The Turkish and Hungarian baths (hamman) all over the city are great places to be naked with lots of local men. For thermal bath etiquette and information on the various public baths, outdoor pools, steambaths or saunas (hamman ) see this link: http://www.frommers.com/destinations/budapest/0047023857.html

Palatinus Strand http://www.frommers.com/destinations/budapest/A30636.html

Gay Pride Budapest: Held yearly.

August 8-15: Sziget Festival The Sziget Festival ('island') is not a gay event, but one of its venue, the Magic Mirror tent, is officially billed as the GLBT place.

Official Tourist site of Budapest http://www.budapestinfo.hu/en/

GayGuide.net Site http://budapest.gayguide.net/Gay_Guide/Events_Gay_Pride/

Europeans (and North Americans) can also enjoy great nude destinations in the US and Canada.

Don't give up on visiting the US too for a great summer time nudist experience. There are sometimes good deals on flight to JFK (NY) or Boston from Scotland or London or Dublin.For example, Provincetown (fly to Boston or train up from New York) and take a 90 min ferry over to P-town - great little gay resort with a wonderful nude and gay beach 15 min. walk from town. While not ' an officially recognized nude beach (meaning it IS against the law ( federal or state regulations may prohibit), there are long standing traditions of getting naked at the most famous and visited nude beaches in the US. However, it is not a 'right' to get naked, as might be the case in Europe - unfortunately, so you should be aware that park rangers and local police sometimes patrol. Remember, there is safety in numbers.

Playing in Playa del Ingles: Gay Gran Canaria

I have been five times before and am hoping to go again to the island of Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands off the coast of Morocco in March of next year. I have written about it before, but the topic came up again on one of the gay travel-related discussion boards (actually Dudesnude dot com). 

Gran Canaria is a fairly nice gay travel destination - there are excellent points but also some negative aspects. 

This entry is mainly about the sex clubs and the dunes. 
In the Yumbo Centre (the largest shopping and commercial complex in Playa del Ingles on the southern and resort/beach side of the island, there are a couple (or more) sex club or backroom bars on the ground (basement floor) - they don't even open to 10 or later. You check your clothes at the door and there is not a dry (cum free) body by the end of the night (4 am?) 

However, I have heard that the Yumbo Centre is going to be renovated sometime this year. Someone on this site told me many months ago so I'll have to look him up since he was due to travel there in Nov/Dec.
It may be closed when you (or I) want to go there. 

The above bars/clube should not be confused with Basement Studios www.basementstudios.es  which is a gay hotel just across from the Yumbo that requires a dress code for staying guests (different 'costumes' each day - all nude, jeans, leather etc,) and the rooms are all opened at certain time for those willing guests to freely roam about and suck/fuck like rabbits (I think that you can also pay to enter as as temporary visitor to enjoy the sex fun). See the site for details. I choose to stay somewhere cheaper (see alpharooms.com for ideas). I'd be exhausted in no time fromdiving in the morning, sex in the dunes in the afternoon and wide abandon both all evening and all night (LOL).

Of course, the dunes will NOT be undergoing renovation - except just what nature provides (wind/sun/blowing sand) andwith nature taking its course (so to speak) - it's very cruisy - almost non-stop in the dunes. It is truly a nudist paradise - but it depends on what (and who) you expect to see walking the streets of heaven.

You should realize that - at least during the winter - Gran Canaria is the temporary home for thousands of retiree couples and also gay couples of all ages (who just want to get away from the snowy colder Northern European climes. There is a lot of camaraderie but typically couples are just hanging out and meeting their 'old' friends whom they met over several wintertime visits to Playa del Ingles / Maspalomas.

Nevertheless, there are hundreds of male (and sometimes female) nudists out sunning and also cruising the famous Maspalomas Dunes from morning to sunset. However, beggars can't be choosers - I'd have to say that the average age is at least 45 (probably older - more like 55 some days) but .. what the hey... who am I to turn done the advances of some middle-aged hottie. I am well into middle age myself. The clubs are different they attract a more virile and younger clientele. 

The Canaries are NOT only about wild sex.. there is historical, cultural and natural environment that has a lot to offer - in fact, I go there as much for the diving and hiking and marine sports as for the gayness of its this varied resort attractions - it IS part of Spain after all.

I heard immediately (private message) from the DN member whon I spoke of in the post above. Good news - at least for those traveling to GC this winter/spring. He was there in Dec and has visited it many, many times.

"Hi, this is the guy that told you about The Yummbo Centre getting renovated. The Good news is that it is but won't be shutting down because of it. Nothing is going to get going till later on this year, so its free to party party party just like before."
I've never been to it The Basement Complex - but here is the web site:   

http://basementstudios.es/web/

I might be in Playa del Ingles from the second or third week of March, so I'll check it out (provided the weather outdoors turns cloudy for an afternoon). 

For some reason (not really strange), St. Patrick's Day is a pretty big affair in Playa del Ingles (Gran Canaria) -- probably because there are so many expats or visitors from Ireland (or with Irish origin).

A word of advice from HardfXXX, another discussion participant:

I didn't mention that I was actually in The Basement. They are open to Visitors everyday but they have a very strict dress code of Nude, leather etc...they dont allow guys to wear speedos boardies etc...sex goes on everywhere. It up to you if you want to rubber up. I was guys been Barebacked by numerous guys. I saw fisting session piss sessions you name, it all goes on. you really need to have an open mind going in. I wasn't shocked but have to say, it is sex 24/7 so if you stayed there, i reckon you would need another holiday when you leave. The Basement is a great place Guys go go go...They also have a sex party of a wednesday afternoon til late into the night.. thats a fucking horny one I tell you...Happy Holidays...

What seemed to be all too common (at least at gay sex clubs/backroom bars) on Gran Canaria (specifically at Yumbo) was the LACK of free condoms (or purchaseable ones). 
So... take you own supply if you want to ensure 'playing safe' - evidently, Playa del Igles is a little too hedonistic or the word (or epidemic) has not reached the upper climes of Europe - most visitors there in March (I've been on or around St. Patrick's Day three different times) seemed to be just a bit too oblivious to the need to safe sex - strange since they come from such enlighted countries (Germany, Austria, Holland, Scandanavia, France, the UK and Ireland etc) The dunes of Maspalomas are somewhat a different 'territory' - everybody has to BYOE (bring you own everything) and guys are more likely to cruise between picnique 'lunches' than to be drinking heavily as they do on the bars. Less alcohol = safer sex practices. 

Reply from HardXXX:

As for the condoms guys, its always a good idea to bring your own supply. Guys go around all the bars once or twice a week giving out free condoms and Lube to the bars for their customers. Unfortunately, some of the greedy guys get them all and leave none for others. Also, not sure if any of you are familiar with the kite symbol? its a little symbol on the back of Condoms saying that they have passed british standards, the condms in GC dont carry this. Also, I have a fairly large cock and I find the condoms over there are too tight, they stop the blood flow and so I lose my hard-on. I bring durex easy roll. they are great for getting on in the dark...lol

Hostel Hotness (from discussions on Dudesnude, DickFlash & JUB)

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Innocent Exhibitionism -- cross-cultural male camarderie in Japan

While living in Japan, I found it kind of amazing that the otherwise polite and docile Japanese could be so rowdy and get so raunchy in the right circumstances. Most of these centered around group events where drinking was involved. I guess it happens everywhere with young people -- like any college parties and fraternities, etc. But still is a bit of a paradox when the seemingly shy Japanese get plastered (or maybe that's just an excuse or front) and start stripping and performing what Puritanical Americans would think of as "lewd" acts.

While Japanese are modest about nudity in general, there are times when you can catch a

glimpse of guys showing pubic hair or asses -- and sometimes a cock. I used to go cycling along some of the rivers around Tokyo. The city uses the flood banks for public sports fields or you can also see similar activities in public parks too. When stopping for a break, I could often get glimpses of guys changing clothes in broad daylight - I mean -  from street clothes -- stripping down to nothing or fleeting glimpse of ass and cock, and change into their team uniform or sports clothes right there in front of everyone -- especially when they were surrounded by the hunky teammates. Teams of intramural sports -- soccer, rugby, American football, baseball play on these fields usually during the weekends and holidays. Invariably, because there are no dressing rooms, the guys have to strip and change out of and back into their street clothes.This kind of CMNM scene has always been a turn-on -- it is like seeing one naked guys in a locker room full of clothed athletes, but it is out in public -- an open field.


It's kind of cool to see this kind of "innocent" exhibitionism among team members. But

there is another type of flashing among Japanese men that seems to happen a lot but is not really so innocent -- maybe not really sexual or sensual -- but more like playful machismo, I guess, but it is still a turn on.

I never got invited to participate to such a degree but I have been in the room -- usually at a overnight retreat at an inn or hot springs resort where similar male stripping occurs. Without fail, some of the guys get (supposedly) too drunk to stop themselves, and end up pulling all kinds of stunts. They seem to start out as party games and end up with somebody getting undressed -- sort of voluntary (or sometimes forced) flashing for the rest of the group.
I never got any photos -- but I found these photos on the net by a group of Japanese

college students . They seem pretty typical for the kind of drunken playfulness that leads to somebody getting pantsed or just flashing the group. I used a Japanese language search engine and found these.


Japanese sometimes call this "skinship"

What is so cool about it? Has anybody else experienced this kind of male-male "bonding" rituals between straight guys or in mixed gender groups -- in North America, Asia, or Europe? I don't have a fetish about it , but think it is kind of cool. While these guys are sort of playing around with "sexy" homoerotic behaviors -- maybe even identifying a bit with the homoerotic nature of what they doing. it seems to me a kind of healthy way to de-sexualize nudity between men. Yes, there are some women at the party too -- although none of them usually get nude or show much if anything at all.

Share any thoughts or photos you have in the subject on this topic.... 

Tips on Gay Travel: Hawaii -- The BIG Island

 

 Click to see LARGE photo of Kehena Beach


More about the Big Island

Kalani Resort

Kalani 

If the Kalani Resort workshops (on the Puna Coast of the Big Island, Hawaii -- mentioned in an earlier blog post "Travelling Alone") don't fit your schedule, Kalani itself still is a great place to stay on the Big Island -- good food -- all organic buffet, the pool/sauna/jacuzzi are clothing optional. Locals have monthly passes and often there are

hunky guys on the staff who hang out there besides the guests.


Kalani is close enough to walk to Kehena Black Sands Beach, the semi-isolated nude beach back at mile marker 19 (Hwy 37) for whale watching (best time for humpbacks is Dec - March), dolphins swims, and nude people - many are gay but this beach is visited by all kinds of people and there are  mixed crowds on the weekends. 


You can no longer camp out at Kalani, but there is a Hawaii County campsite a few miles away (  )or stay in various types of rooms at Kalani. While it is not a nudist resort, the pool / hot tubs and sauna area is clothing-optional from 3:00pm every day. So it's almost like being a nude resort.

There are also some gay B&Bs not far away too, such as Absolute Paradise among others.

http://absoluteparadise.tv/absolute_paradise.htm



Steam Vent Inn is a decent B&B too -- right next to the natural steam saunas (guys cruise there too). But don't forget about the Kona side of Hawaii Island, and the north and east, Wapio Valley is a great hike -- like to splash-flash (skinny dip there) and possibly camp at Laupahoehoe Scenic Point (park is at shore off main highway) and make it two islands and see gay Oahu too.

http://pahoahi.tripod.com/ puna/isteam4.jpg

See more info about the Puna, including the Steam vents and other sights (use pull down GO menu) at:
http://pahoahi.tripod.com/puna/steam.htm


Be sure to see the lava and lava tube caves at Volcanoes National Park (South West of Hilo).


Kona Side



I also recommend the night dive (or you can snorkel too) with giant mantas at Kona. It is a fantastic experience and then, you can spend some time at the local nude / gay beach at Kailua-Kona: Honokohau Beach or at Beach 67, not far from Waialea Beach Park on the Old Puako Road.  It's called Beach 67 because it's down a rough road which begins at telephone pole No. 67.  It's a clothing optional beach. 

https://www.google.co.jp/maps/@19.9826579,-155.831844,15z?hl=en

Directions to Honokohau Beach: Hwy 19 towards the Kona airport, look for the Honokohau Boat Harbor sign, take left then first right. It is part of a national park -- so rangers do patrol at times; park along the road
Head down the North trail, far end of the beach (about 300-700 ft).

More info on gay Hawaii at: (check out the latest issue online and see Oahu Info and Beyond Oahu info. 

http://www.hawaiiscene.com/odyssey/ 

Is a joint JUB / Dudesnude / Manhunt Gathering possible?

Is a joint JustUsBoys (JUB) / Dudesnude / Manhunt Gathering or Summer Party  possible? 
Why? How? Where? When? This is an article for ideas for getting it started.

It seems that JUB (JustusBoys.com) members are hosting small gatherings across the US. Is anyone here actually participating in those -- attending and/or planning? I wonder if another large online virtual community like Dudesnude.com or Manhunt.net could do the same? Would there be any benefit of trying to hold a joint party/gathering?

That brings up the idea of a "joint" cross-group event - -but after all isn't that what PRIDE events or the annual street fairs are all about (such as Southern Decadence). 

I am not nixing the idea of a Dudesnude party or convention or other event. I am just making some suggestions so it might actually happen. For example, we could hook-up with an existing event and thus attract more JustUsBoys or Dudesnude members to attend. I am also explaining what I think is needed to be decided in order to get one organized. 

At least, we could start by having local JUB or Dudesnudes members sponsor one event at a major Gay Pride / Gay Carnival event (on their continent or region). 
 
As I thought (and wrote) more about it the idea of a Dudesnude-JUB Gathering seems more possible and more fun -- so I have started making real suggestions (at least on Dudesnude.com). I have approached the idea to anyone here -- except through this blog entry. 


The realities of actually organizing 'party' / 'convention' - 'round-up' or whatever it is called are daunting if you try to actually get many DN members to attend. 
Instead, there may be some wisdom in starting on a smaller scale. It does takes a spark -- a somebody(ies) who will take the initiative to set a place/time, have a clear purpose/events/activities, make contacts and coordinate communication.  

I seems to be a bit difficult to come up with a 'purpose' for a DN party -- if it a sex party/orgy then we'd better call

it that. If it's a social gathering or an organizational meeting then we'd need to get that clear. If it a DN sponsored event that is part of another major gay (men's) event or an event or series of events organized for DN (on its own) that's great but we need something to focus on: a parade float, BBQ, camp-out, beach party, ice-cream social, apres-ski party, pot-luck supper (in the nude) etc) then that would work.

If is going to have multiple purposes then that's got to be decided or at least sorted out, but it seems that we're not likely to come up with ONE general purpose because of the diversity of men, locations, ages, and interests. 

   

Still, if somebody got one party/convention organized, once it has been started and successfully held, it would be model on how to proceed with others (or how to improve upon the idea).
Also, why not have them rotate from venue to venue and occur several times a year?-- instead of trying to have simultaneous 'parties/conventions'. 

 So ... I'll help organize one in JUB-DudesNude-Manhunt Gathering for Summer 2014 / Fall 2014 / Winter 2014-15 (US (several locations), or Europe would be possible. 

The First Honolulu JUB-DN Gathering is easy - I think it should be on January 1st at Diamond Head Beach from 12:00 noon - until about 5pm. If enough guys are interested, then we could set up a BBQ picnic in nearby Kapiolani Park (but the Jubbing around (talk, chatting, playing game and Dudenuding could go on at the (unofficial gay/nude beach under the Light House on Diamond Head Beach. )

Stay tuned below for more info and an Evite (electronic invitation).  

Palm Springs Dec 22-24 -- we could stay where we like but gather at one site (Inn Exile, CCBC, or wherever) for the main party/event(s). 
or 
Sometime in February 21-March 9 Big Island (nude gay beach party on the Puna shore, accommodation could be at Kalani resort - from camping to bungalows to hotel-class rooms )

Playa del Ingles / Maspalomas (Gran Canaria, Spain) Carnival 2nd to 12th March, 2015 
or later March 19-28, 2015.

There are cheap flights from London, Germany, Amsterdam, Madrid. We could organize shared accommodations at both gay and vacation condo/hotels and have a huge blast on the largest gay beaches in the world during the day (all in the nude) and then split up into small dance/bar-hopping by interest groups at the many clubs in the Yumbo Center in the evenings. 

Tampa or South Florida, March 16-19, 2015

I could attend one in Europe (and maybe help out with one) in London, Paris, Amsterdam, Budapest) in March -- if the Gran Canaria does not work out. 

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TRYING OUT EVITE as a way to help organize (and/or just poll the members about enough interest to pursue the idea, and to actually start planning a location/time.

If you guys will indulge me, I have created an Evite to test its ability to actually find out WHO would attend a JUB/Dudesnude party or Gathering.

If you can or can't, I need a few JUB/DN members to try out the Evite link below:

Since it is may be a BROKEN URL link (yes, I understand very well why it may be), then you can piece together the parts of the URL and send me a reply at the EVITE site. Or you can send me e-mail and I will send you an Evite directly. It includes some of the features -- liking polling, brining things, that future JUB and/or DudesNude or Joint JUB-DN gathering hosts might need to know and info they'd need to be able to do collect. 
So I'll someone who reads this will try it out -- even if you can't really attend that event on Jan. 1st in Honolulu.

Since I don't know the everyone's e-mails (nor would I send it to EVERYONE even if I did), but I do need a couple of people to try to see if Eventbrite works. 

http://www.eventbrite.com/o/club-cmnm-2813880240

One major stumbling block to actually organizing an DudesNude  / JustUsBoys / Manhunt event or party is the fact this is not a email LIST or group (Yahoo or MSN, etc). So there is no way to send everyone a message (apart from site host / web admin) - and they should NOT have to organize events AND run / host this site too. 

So here's the link and hope you can make it (or at least try to send a RSVP or decline the invitation). 
It will give me (and maybe someone in a different location) a resource for helping to organize a JUB/ DN event (if it works). 


Thanx,
Sunbuns99 (Kelly)

Or you could just write me e-mail and I'll send you an electronic (email) invitation.